Cowards, that's what they are. But I really think, unfortunately that the publicity surrounding Vick and the knowledge that he fought dogs, is only going to act as a reinforcement to those that fight these dogs that it is a good thing.
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Unfortunately Mary, this whole thing has probably glamorized this for those that are into it - knowing that someone famous did it and got away with a slap on the wrist makes it all good to them. No matter how mad I get at my furballs or my son I could never be that enraged to hurt them physically or mentally - punished yes and let it be known that I'm mad - ok. Like you said, only a coward and the most weak of men could do atrocities like that. I would love to see how they would fare against a pack of dogs attacking them and right before they were devoured shock them a bit, stomp on them and bludgeon them - seems only fair to me - but hey, who am I to say how they should be treated because they are people and you know the bleeding hearts out there would stick up for them!
This is totally disgusting
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"Qui me amat, amat et canem meum" (Love me, love my dog)
The more people I meet the more I like my dog
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The more people I meet the more I like my dog
"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience"
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"Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate in their object-relations."
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 10:00 PM
By watching the news and listening to the radio, Virginia is considering filing charges against all involved. The laws are harsher statewide verses federal. They all plead out to the federal charges. They were saying if they got the max through the state courts they could get 4-10years.
If you notice the other topic I posted from Dayton, OH , the three guys got 4 years for dogfighting charges.(state)
Shouldn't someone get a nice clean Vick jersey, have a dog take a huge dump on it right under the Vick name. I'm sure a picture like this would be around the world in record time.
If you notice the other topic I posted from Dayton, OH , the three guys got 4 years for dogfighting charges.(state)
Shouldn't someone get a nice clean Vick jersey, have a dog take a huge dump on it right under the Vick name. I'm sure a picture like this would be around the world in record time.
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I had to laugh out loud.
The problem is getting the doggie to cooperate.
The problem is getting the doggie to cooperate.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:06 AM
I had to laugh out loud.
The problem is getting the doggie to cooperate.
Magnum goes on command most of the time - too bad we don't know anyone with a jersey!
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The more people I meet the more I like my dog
"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience"
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"Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate in their object-relations."
-Sigmund Freud
The more people I meet the more I like my dog
"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience"
-Woodrow Wilson
"Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate in their object-relations."
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Posted 24 August 2007 - 06:15 PM
NFL Suspends Michael Vick Indefinitely
Friday, August 24, 2007
The NFL indefinitely suspended Michael Vick without pay Friday just hours after he acknowledged in court papers that he did, indeed, bankroll gambling on dogfighting and helped kill some dogs not worthy of the pit.
Vick, however, insisted he placed no bets of his own nor took any winnings.
In disciplining Vick, commissioner Roger Goodell said Vick's admitted conduct was "not only illegal but also cruel and reprehensible" and regardless whether he personally placed bets, "your actions in funding the betting and your association with illegal gambling both violate the terms of your NFL player contract and expose you to corrupting influences in derogation of one of the most fundamental responsibilities of an NFL player."
Goodell freed the Falcons to "assert any claims or remedies" to recover $22 million of Vick's signing bonus from the 10-year, $130 million contract he signed in 2004.
The commissioner didn't speak to Vick but based his decision on the court filings. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Goodell may meet with Vick in the future, and Goodell said he would review the suspension after all the legal proceedings.
"You have engaged in conduct detrimental to the welfare of the NFL and have violated the league's personal conduct policy," Goodell told Vick in a letter after meeting in New York with Falcons president and general manager Rich McKay.
Falcons owner Arthur Blank supported Goodell's decision and said:
"We hope that Michael will use this time, not only to further address his legal matters, but to take positive steps to improve his personal life."
Earlier Friday in Richmond, Va., a "summary of facts" signed by Vick was filed along with his written plea agreement on a federal dogfighting conspiracy charge. He will appear before U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson to formally plead guilty Monday and then await sentencing at a later date.
The court documents and a statement by Vick's legal team seek to portray him as less involved in the dogfighting ring than three co-defendants who previously pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against the Atlanta Falcons quarterback.
"While Mr. Vick is not personally charged with or responsible for committing all of the acts alleged in the indictment, as with any conspiracy charge, he is taking full responsibility for his actions and the actions of the others involved," the defense team said in a written statement after the plea agreement was filed.
"Mr. Vick apologizes for his poor judgment in associating himself with those involved in dog fighting and realizes he should never have been involved in this conduct," the statement said.
Vick signed the plea agreement late Thursday.
"Most of the Bad Newz Kennels operation and gambling monies were provided by Vick," the summary of facts said, echoing language in plea agreements by the three co-defendants.
The statement said that when the kennel's dogs won, the gambling proceeds were generally shared by Vick's three co-defendants - Tony Taylor, Purnell Peace and Quanis Phillips.
"Vick did not gamble by placing side bets on any of the fights. Vick did not receive any of the proceeds of the purses that were won by Bad Newz Kennels," the summary said.
According to the statement, Vick also was involved with the others in killing six to eight dogs that did not perform well in testing sessions last April. The dogs were executed by drowning or hanging.
"Vick agrees and stipulates that these dogs all died as a result of the collective efforts" of Vick, Phillips and Peace, the statement said.
In the plea agreement, the government committed to recommending a sentence on the low end of the federal sentencing guideline range of a year to 18 months. However, the conspiracy charge is punishable by up to five years in prison, and the judge is not bound by any recommendation or by the guidelines.
Hudson has a reputation for imposing stiff sentences, according to lawyers who have appeared in his court. The judge will set a sentencing date at Monday's hearing.
"Our position has been that we are going to try to help Judge Hudson understand all the facts and Michael's role," Vick's defense attorney, Billy Martin, said in telephone interview. "Michael's role was different than others associated with this incident."
Martin said Vick will "speak to the public and explain his actions." Though he declined to say when and where, the Tom Joyner Morning Show, a syndicated program based in Dallas, said it will have a live interview with Vick on Tuesday.
The U.S. attorney's office, which has declined to comment on the case, said it would issue a statement after the hearing.
The case began in April when authorities conducting a drug investigation of Vick's cousin raided a Surry County property owned by Vick and found dozens of dogs, some injured, and equipment commonly used in dogfighting.
A federal indictment issued in July charged Vick, Peace, Phillips and Taylor with an interstate dogfighting conspiracy. Vick initially denied any involvement, and all four men pleaded innocent.
Taylor was the first to change his plea to guilty, saying Vick financed the dogfighting ring's gambling and operations. Peace and Phillips soon followed, alleging that Vick joined them in killing dogs that did not measure up in test fights.
The sickening details outlined in the indictment and other court papers prompted a public backlash against Vick, who had been one of the NFL's most popular players.
Animal-rights groups mobilized against Vick - even protesting at NFL headquarters in New York - and sponsors dropped him.
"It is fitting that the NFL has suspended him," said Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of The Humane Society of the United States. "He's now a role model for something terrible, and it's not appropriate that he suit up in an NFL uniform."
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Friday, August 24, 2007
The NFL indefinitely suspended Michael Vick without pay Friday just hours after he acknowledged in court papers that he did, indeed, bankroll gambling on dogfighting and helped kill some dogs not worthy of the pit.
Vick, however, insisted he placed no bets of his own nor took any winnings.
In disciplining Vick, commissioner Roger Goodell said Vick's admitted conduct was "not only illegal but also cruel and reprehensible" and regardless whether he personally placed bets, "your actions in funding the betting and your association with illegal gambling both violate the terms of your NFL player contract and expose you to corrupting influences in derogation of one of the most fundamental responsibilities of an NFL player."
Goodell freed the Falcons to "assert any claims or remedies" to recover $22 million of Vick's signing bonus from the 10-year, $130 million contract he signed in 2004.
The commissioner didn't speak to Vick but based his decision on the court filings. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Goodell may meet with Vick in the future, and Goodell said he would review the suspension after all the legal proceedings.
"You have engaged in conduct detrimental to the welfare of the NFL and have violated the league's personal conduct policy," Goodell told Vick in a letter after meeting in New York with Falcons president and general manager Rich McKay.
Falcons owner Arthur Blank supported Goodell's decision and said:
"We hope that Michael will use this time, not only to further address his legal matters, but to take positive steps to improve his personal life."
Earlier Friday in Richmond, Va., a "summary of facts" signed by Vick was filed along with his written plea agreement on a federal dogfighting conspiracy charge. He will appear before U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson to formally plead guilty Monday and then await sentencing at a later date.
The court documents and a statement by Vick's legal team seek to portray him as less involved in the dogfighting ring than three co-defendants who previously pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against the Atlanta Falcons quarterback.
"While Mr. Vick is not personally charged with or responsible for committing all of the acts alleged in the indictment, as with any conspiracy charge, he is taking full responsibility for his actions and the actions of the others involved," the defense team said in a written statement after the plea agreement was filed.
"Mr. Vick apologizes for his poor judgment in associating himself with those involved in dog fighting and realizes he should never have been involved in this conduct," the statement said.
Vick signed the plea agreement late Thursday.
"Most of the Bad Newz Kennels operation and gambling monies were provided by Vick," the summary of facts said, echoing language in plea agreements by the three co-defendants.
The statement said that when the kennel's dogs won, the gambling proceeds were generally shared by Vick's three co-defendants - Tony Taylor, Purnell Peace and Quanis Phillips.
"Vick did not gamble by placing side bets on any of the fights. Vick did not receive any of the proceeds of the purses that were won by Bad Newz Kennels," the summary said.
According to the statement, Vick also was involved with the others in killing six to eight dogs that did not perform well in testing sessions last April. The dogs were executed by drowning or hanging.
"Vick agrees and stipulates that these dogs all died as a result of the collective efforts" of Vick, Phillips and Peace, the statement said.
In the plea agreement, the government committed to recommending a sentence on the low end of the federal sentencing guideline range of a year to 18 months. However, the conspiracy charge is punishable by up to five years in prison, and the judge is not bound by any recommendation or by the guidelines.
Hudson has a reputation for imposing stiff sentences, according to lawyers who have appeared in his court. The judge will set a sentencing date at Monday's hearing.
"Our position has been that we are going to try to help Judge Hudson understand all the facts and Michael's role," Vick's defense attorney, Billy Martin, said in telephone interview. "Michael's role was different than others associated with this incident."
Martin said Vick will "speak to the public and explain his actions." Though he declined to say when and where, the Tom Joyner Morning Show, a syndicated program based in Dallas, said it will have a live interview with Vick on Tuesday.
The U.S. attorney's office, which has declined to comment on the case, said it would issue a statement after the hearing.
The case began in April when authorities conducting a drug investigation of Vick's cousin raided a Surry County property owned by Vick and found dozens of dogs, some injured, and equipment commonly used in dogfighting.
A federal indictment issued in July charged Vick, Peace, Phillips and Taylor with an interstate dogfighting conspiracy. Vick initially denied any involvement, and all four men pleaded innocent.
Taylor was the first to change his plea to guilty, saying Vick financed the dogfighting ring's gambling and operations. Peace and Phillips soon followed, alleging that Vick joined them in killing dogs that did not measure up in test fights.
The sickening details outlined in the indictment and other court papers prompted a public backlash against Vick, who had been one of the NFL's most popular players.
Animal-rights groups mobilized against Vick - even protesting at NFL headquarters in New York - and sponsors dropped him.
"It is fitting that the NFL has suspended him," said Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of The Humane Society of the United States. "He's now a role model for something terrible, and it's not appropriate that he suit up in an NFL uniform."
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Vick found Jesus how nice.
http://msn.foxsports...e...22
Only after he got busted and realized his career was going to be over! Kind of reminds me of what a crackhead would do after being busted and in jail (so they can get out and get their fix). He sickens
me and to me is a bottom feeder!
"Qui me amat, amat et canem meum" (Love me, love my dog)
The more people I meet the more I like my dog
"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience"
-Woodrow Wilson
"Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate in their object-relations."
-Sigmund Freud
The more people I meet the more I like my dog
"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience"
-Woodrow Wilson
"Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate in their object-relations."
-Sigmund Freud
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 09:57 AM
Yes, he found Jesus and admits that he made a mistake. Mistake my a$$. he admitted to helping to kill 6-8 dogs, the ba$tard. That's no mistake that is sick, cruel, cowardly, and appalling. What a liar.
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Dogs don't know about beginnings, and they don't speculate on matters that occurred before their time.
Dogs also don't know-or at least don't accept-the concept of death.
With no concept of beginnings or endings, dogs probably don't know that for people, having a dog as a life companion provides a streak of light between two eternities of darkness
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Whether he found Jesus or not, he'll still answer to him eventually. Justice is always served even if it's not on this earth.
It matters to the one you save.
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One of my dearest friends' ex-husband (notice I said EX) has been in and out of prison about 5 x now and everytime He got there, he suddenly found Jesus.......soon to be lost with cocaine use after release from prison. It is a cycle with these offenders.
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One of my dearest friends' ex-husband (notice I said EX) has been in and out of prison about 5 x now and everytime He got there, he suddenly found Jesus.......soon to be lost with cocaine use after release from prison. It is a cycle with these offenders.
It never ends and won't with Vick either - sad to say but this is why my husband will always have a job!
"Qui me amat, amat et canem meum" (Love me, love my dog)
The more people I meet the more I like my dog
"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience"
-Woodrow Wilson
"Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate in their object-relations."
-Sigmund Freud
The more people I meet the more I like my dog
"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience"
-Woodrow Wilson
"Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate in their object-relations."
-Sigmund Freud
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 06:07 PM
I was watching the news conference, and burst out laughing when he said he'd found Jesus. 
How typical....
Too bad he didn't "find Jesus" before he murdered those poor dogs. I might have believed it then.
He is trying to play the victim now. One game he's not good at playing, the puke.
Has anyone seen the videos that the HSUS wants people to vote on for their anti-dogfighting campaign? There are three. The first, and last are heartbreakingly graphic. The last one is absolutely HORRIBLE. Just a forwarning.
How typical....
Too bad he didn't "find Jesus" before he murdered those poor dogs. I might have believed it then.
He is trying to play the victim now. One game he's not good at playing, the puke.
Has anyone seen the videos that the HSUS wants people to vote on for their anti-dogfighting campaign? There are three. The first, and last are heartbreakingly graphic. The last one is absolutely HORRIBLE. Just a forwarning.
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Did anyone hear about another celeb-type in Colorado(?), DMZ--must be a rapper--having starving, scarred dogs covered with feces at his house? Also found several dead dogs. On the photos I saw, the poor animals were so skinny, and drooling non-stop. Believe they were pit bulls.
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Did anyone hear about another celeb-type in Colorado(?), DMZ--must be a rapper--having starving, scarred dogs covered with feces at his house? Also found several dead dogs. On the photos I saw, the poor animals were so skinny, and drooling non-stop. Believe they were pit bulls.
DMX. Here is a link to the story...
http://www.kpho.com/...298/detail.html
Besides the obvious, what REALLY bothers me is that in 2002 he pleaded guilty to animal cruelty for neglecting 13 pit bulls in his possession... why was he even allowed to own more animals???
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