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#1 Stef

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 07:15 AM

Hi everyone!!! Weve been quiet the past year. Its been a bit of an emotional roller coaster but things are good now and that is all that matters.

Stella is having a tough time and Im hoping someone has some ideas.

In August she stayed with my mom for 3 days while I coached at camp. During those three days she was super nervous and stressed and hardly ate. When she came home she was vomiting and has super loose stools. We did the usual pumpkin/rice/chicken but she wasnt really interested in food and would regurgitate food if she was startled or stressed at all. We tried multiple types of food including home cooked. Nothing seemed to improve the vomiting or the anorexia.

We took her in and had bloodwork done. She has been on Prozac for the past few years and they suggested we increase her dose. This increased the vomiting exponentially. So we have weaned her off the Prozac. There are some positives - she is much cuddlier and it has had no impact on her joy of running free and happily playing with toys. Her stress levels are higher and the pacing has increased exponentially. BUT. The vomiting was significantly less. She is eating all her meals now. She runs with me 4 days a week between 5-7km and she runs at the field the other days. We walk every morning.

She is still regurgitating 3-4 times a week. It is no longer related to stress - this morning we went for a nice walk, came home and had breakfast, Im drinking coffee on the couch and she regurgitated her whole breakfast. She is bright and happy and doesnt seem bothered by it at all.

It is always whole kibble - and since we have taken her off the medication there is never bile. The only correlation we do note is when she drinks a lot of water or if the water is super cold (I once filled the dish from our fridge filtered water) she will vomit.

Im wondering if the medication damaged her stomach and it is still healing? I have tried the Missing Link Probiotic and it doesnt seem to make a difference. Any other ideas that might help her?
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Posted 10 December 2018 - 07:23 AM

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 12:21 PM

Hi Stef,

I sent this to Arda via facebook messenger to see if she has any ideas. Arda hasn't been on this website for a while...I know she wasn't feeling good yesterday, but I will be talking to her tonight. 



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Posted 10 December 2018 - 03:11 PM

Thank you!!
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Posted 10 December 2018 - 05:33 PM

Ardas response - Stef; I have to think before I say anything as I get all messed up if I don't. Does she eat her kibble wet or dry? Do you let it soak and give it to her warm?

 

Arda said she has to put warm water on Shelby's food and let it soak, if Shelby drinks cold water she throws up. Another thought was a partial blockage. Another thought would be to put her on a Limited Ingredient Diet. (Natural Balance Limited Ingredient) I had to do this with one of my dogs that would throw up and it worked for her.

 

 

For her anxiety you could try  Pro-Sense Anti-Stress Dog Calming Tablets.https://www.chewy.co...og.../dp/149866 

 

Arda's email if you would rather communicate that way is dobes2ndchance@hotmail.com



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Posted 10 December 2018 - 05:35 PM

Thank you!! She is on Natural Balance Venison - and we will try the warm soaked food!! Thank you!!!

Poops are good and regular like clockwork. Maybe we will have xrays done just to make sure there is no blockage.

Thank you so much!!!
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Posted 10 December 2018 - 07:50 PM

Stef keep us posted please and give Stella some extra loving for us. Hope she gets better. 



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Posted 11 December 2018 - 12:58 PM

Well the softened warm kibble is a huge hit! Hahaaha Stella has never counter surfed in her life and I left the kibble to soften while we walked and I came upstairs with the pug and she had it half gone!
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 06:05 PM

Stella says she isn't gonna wait for my mommy to feed me...lol...hope the soften food helps her...



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Posted 16 December 2018 - 06:14 PM

So.... we are at a full week and NO puking/regurgitation since we started soaking her kibble!!!! Thank you!!! But ... why does it work? Does it break down the kibble a little to make it easier to process? Or the extra water helps her digest it?
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Posted 16 December 2018 - 06:25 PM

I believe Arda said when it is not soaked and they eat it, it will expand in their stomach an cause the vomiting...but since the kibble is already expanded when they eat it doesn't have to expand in the stomach. So happy to hear that it has worked so far. Arda was just asking about Stella today...I will let Arda know. 



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Posted 16 December 2018 - 06:45 PM

Thank you so much! Please give her a big hug and if there are any old dudes who will tolerate an intact pug please let us know.
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Posted 16 December 2018 - 09:52 PM

Oh darn it we just adopted out a beautiful well behaved sweet 7 year old boy, he was to die for...BUT at least he did go to someone who has adopted from us before and he is doing great in their home with their kitties.  

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The only other old dude we have right now is Cassius he is 11 years old. NOT sure how he would do with a intact pug though.



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Posted 16 December 2018 - 09:59 PM

This is Cassius...He got adopted out 8.5 years ago, owner passed away and the daughter kept Cassius, we found out that she was keeping him in a home by himself with no heat or electricity and I went and picked him up right before thanksgiving 2017.Attached File  cassius1.jpg   221.57KB   0 downloads



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Posted 27 December 2018 - 09:01 AM

Hi Stef!  I'm just seeing this thread for the first time.  I'm sorry to hear about Stella's troubles, but I'm also happy to hear that soaking the kibble seems to have made such a great improvement!  Wishing you good luck in keeping any issues at bay.  I've always put a little water on my dogs' kibble, though I haven't had to actually soak it.  A few months back, Natasha started refusing to eat.  She has never refused to eat in her life, so I knew something was seriously wrong.  I found out that she would eat straight canned food, though, so I figured it was something about the kibble.  I discovered that the kibble I was feeding was very, very hard.  I switched to a kibble for small dogs where the individual pieces are much smaller and not as hard -- I finally found one that I was able to get in 30-pound bags -- and no problem since then.  I probably could have solved the problem by simply soaking the old kibble for a significant period of time, but they would not have been happy if they had to wait that long between me putting it in the bowl and then putting it down for them. ;)


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