Doggie Disagreements
#1
Posted 14 August 2007 - 11:44 AM
Sarah
It matters to the one you save.
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#2
Posted 14 August 2007 - 12:05 PM
I do believe that they are. I am by no means an expert, but when I added a second dog (Valentino), he and Cocoa had one major battle where he drew blood. It did take some time though for Val to understand his place in our pack. Time and patience were key. It's all good now. They absolutely adore one another.My question is are they just determining their place in the pack?
Edited by CAB, 14 August 2007 - 12:09 PM.
-Arda Barber
#3
Posted 14 August 2007 - 02:02 PM
#4
Posted 14 August 2007 - 02:23 PM
My dobergirl thinks she is the second in command here, and must discipline the other dogs
for who knows what reason.
She hates the squirt bottle... Now I just look at it, and say NO.
I rarely have to pick it up.
Isn't Allie older than Buddy? Maybe she is trying to teach him manners, or
she is being a .... um, female dog.
#5
Posted 14 August 2007 - 02:26 PM
The more people I meet the more I like my dog
"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience"
-Woodrow Wilson
"Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate in their object-relations."
-Sigmund Freud
#6
Posted 15 August 2007 - 08:45 AM
#7
Posted 15 August 2007 - 11:36 AM
Sarah
It matters to the one you save.
SCD's Out on Bail CGC (December 17, 2008- April 27, 2018)
SCD's Stone Soup
SCD's Sixpence in my shoe
SCD's Hurricane Alley CGC (August 12, 2007- September 11, 2014)
SCD's Easter Buddy CGC (August 12, 2007- July 5, 2012)
Page, Princess Extraordinaire - (July 9, 2000- July 31, 2007)
#8
Posted 21 August 2007 - 10:30 AM
Edited by doberpagegirl, 21 August 2007 - 10:48 AM.
It matters to the one you save.
SCD's Out on Bail CGC (December 17, 2008- April 27, 2018)
SCD's Stone Soup
SCD's Sixpence in my shoe
SCD's Hurricane Alley CGC (August 12, 2007- September 11, 2014)
SCD's Easter Buddy CGC (August 12, 2007- July 5, 2012)
Page, Princess Extraordinaire - (July 9, 2000- July 31, 2007)
#9
Posted 21 August 2007 - 10:45 AM
Isn't this redirected aggression? I dunno, but I thought I may have read about it somewhere on this board.This time we were outside and a loose chiuaiua(sp) went walking by the fence. Both my dogs started to growl (at the chi I thought) then in a second they are a jumping rolling ball of fur with spit flying.
-Arda Barber
#10
Posted 21 August 2007 - 10:55 AM
It matters to the one you save.
SCD's Out on Bail CGC (December 17, 2008- April 27, 2018)
SCD's Stone Soup
SCD's Sixpence in my shoe
SCD's Hurricane Alley CGC (August 12, 2007- September 11, 2014)
SCD's Easter Buddy CGC (August 12, 2007- July 5, 2012)
Page, Princess Extraordinaire - (July 9, 2000- July 31, 2007)
#11
Posted 21 August 2007 - 11:14 AM
We went to a local trainer that I decided wasn't for me. He has a lot of K-9 and milatary experience and I felt like he was a little over the top for the problems I have, but I have friends that went to him for other behavior and pack problems and he helped them. You sound like me - my dogs know that I am a push over and will try most anything if thier Dad isn't around. The trainer told me I was the problem...not fun to hear, but it's true. Not sure where you are located, but try to find a good trainer.
#12
Posted 21 August 2007 - 11:39 AM
Good LUCK! She is NOT allowed on the furniture for special days or anything, never, ever, ever for nothing!
Melissa K.
#13
Posted 21 August 2007 - 01:22 PM
#14
Posted 21 August 2007 - 02:23 PM
#15
Posted 21 August 2007 - 04:52 PM
#16
Posted 21 August 2007 - 06:39 PM
This is Joaquin, Sarah's (Doberpagegirl) boyfriend. Just a quick question for now, we are about to head up and get some muzzles for the dogs to wear while I am not home and while Sarah is working on her "freak out" routine to establish her dominance. Should we just muzzle both dogs right now? We are unsure who is coaxing the other into these spats but as Arda says it's unnatural for males to attack females unprovoked.
Thanx in advance!
Joaquin
#17
Posted 21 August 2007 - 06:57 PM
#18
Posted 21 August 2007 - 09:28 PM
The more people I meet the more I like my dog
"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience"
-Woodrow Wilson
"Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate in their object-relations."
-Sigmund Freud
#19
Posted 21 August 2007 - 09:40 PM
A very wise women speaks. Great info and food for thought. I am sure you have seen it all and dealt with it all and made it work. I alway figure you have to be at least 10 steps ahead of the Dobe to try and stay ahead of what they are going to do next, in other words, never a dull moment.I would muzzle both for right now. Read them like they are children. They will show you which is the problem. She's probably starting it and Lefty doesn't know that he is surpose to back down. I used to put them and Shivers, Moose, Tiny, Buggers, Max, and Pachino all out together. Whoever got into it in the yard got the broom. If it was three in the pile, they all got the broom. Lefty would come to heal position and sqirm around my leg like he was saying "I'm sorry". So he knows what I meant. But I think they are trying to decide who is the boss and it has to be you and not them. Get the nylon muzzles that go up the side of the face and around the neck. Put a flat collar on them and put the ends of the muzzle around the flat collar so they can't pull them off. When you think it's tight enough tighten it a little more. To start with you want it very tight. Remember this "the Dobermann was designed to be uncontainable". They have never made a muzzle, collar, or pinch to hold all Dobermanns. If you look at the head of the dog you will see the wedges that make up the head. Once the nose is through an opening, the rest of the dog follows. Therefore it is a tough job to hold one of the little darlings when they have a goal in their head. I will try to show all of you what I mean if you get down here for the reunion and you remind me. I will be the fat old woman sleeping in a chair somewhere.
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#20
Posted 21 August 2007 - 10:59 PM
I would muzzle both for right now. Read them like they are children. They will show you which is the problem. She's probably starting it and Lefty doesn't know that he is surpose to back down.
So we should promote Alley being more dominant than Lefty? If so, should we be feeding her first and letting her go out the door first as well? Anything else we should be doing to show him he should be backing down to her?
Get the nylon muzzles that go up the side of the face and around the neck. Put a flat collar on them and put the ends of the muzzle around the flat collar so they can't pull them off. When you think it's tight enough tighten it a little more. To start with you want it very tight.
What is the maximum amount of time we will want to have them in a muzzle?
I will try to show all of you what I mean if you get down here for the reunion and you remind me. I will be the fat old woman sleeping in a chair somewhere.
Well anything shy of our 'other' vehicle going out on us couldn't keep us away! Be prepared to have your brain picked. (until you bring out the broom)
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